Why I wont buy a 2025 Ram Cummins…

The information’s out folks, the new 67 coming I’ll. Tell you what I better go ahead and make this video before it completely becomes irrelevant and the truck shows up and we can visually see and drive the vehicle with all the concerns and speculations right in front of us to see if they’re actually worthy of talking About or if they are something that’s going to kick ass, but basically we don’t got a lot of time. We don’t have enough time to get a glass right now we’re in the shop, so it doesn’t really count. I don’t need to get a cup the rules. Don’T apply down here, better, get a swig before I have this rant coming at you for the new 67 cumings.

I guess we’ll start off right off the bat the speculations were. Were they going to run another 67 or a variant of it or is what are they going to change? Were they going to up the cubic inch in order to keep up with the horsepower that other brands are completely destroying the market with? That was the biggest question honestly transmission uh. It was up and down on what, if we’re going to get more gears, we’re going to keep the is in we’re going to get a different version of the six Speed 8 speed 10 speed.

What’S it going to be well, they then FS out it’s another 67. They apparently do have a 72 cumin that is ready to be dropped into any pickup. I guess picks up the contract. I don’t know if Doge going to keep it, that’s speculation, but why didn’t they go with the 72 and why would they go at the 72? Well, my Insider sources via somebody that I know down in Texas, he’s stating that the only reason that they would go to a 7.

L cumins, which they already have the engine ready to go, is so they could meet or exceed different levels of emission standards and Or not have to meet certain areas to comply with because they have more cubic inches to displace. So it puts you in a different category, not because they want to be competitive with Ford and actually have some more horsepower yeah. I know these new trucks. I will start off the day and say they’re great. They got way more horsepower than what they used to have, but that’s how Evolution works.

But I do have a list of stuff that we’re going to go into and some of my concerns that we’re going to talk about with the new 67 and the new transmission that Dodge is going to be putting in it. But we want to rewind the clocks. A little bit for anybody, that’s not in the area of it. I’Ll start off by saying my name is Samson Andrew this B Belton son welcome to the channel and I’ve been through a couple of these Dodge trucks. I believe in I I’ll save as many of these old tractor trucks as I can find why I call it a tractor truck because it’s got a little tractor engine in this bad boy, 1996, 12 outcomes and for some reason, Dodge has been doing this for the Longest time they have something that has the most traction possible and the coolest idea to put an old tractor straight six in one of these things, but what they do.

They leave us with a bunch to be desired and not have a good transmission to go behind it. Ah, some people are grandpas. Some people like to relax. They like the automatic lifestyle. Well, what do they do?
They ran the same variant of a transmission from the 60s 7s 80s and they put an overdrive on it and put it behind the comments got a four-speed automatic back in the day. First gear didn’t lock up. Second gear, didn’t lock up third gear, didn’t lock up. Fourth gear high gear locked up or you could hit a button on the dash and that would drop third gear into your high hole and then it would uh it would lock third gear. What’S the deal with that, we bought power plant engine tractor truck.

We want this thing to pull. All it’s going to do is slip on the converter for the first 3040 freaking mph before it locks up. That’S how you burn stuff up, which they did. They burned up a lot of these automatic transmissions, although if you do spend a couple Grand on it or more, you can make that transmission pretty tight, but at the same time you still don’t have first gear lock up second gear. I mean you can put a switch in your wiring harness do some stuff, but that’s back in the’90s early 2000s, the same kind of deal or you can just be a man and get a stick shift, which we can’t get that anymore.

When we order a new truck, they got rid of that in 2019. They said nope nobody’s ordering these anymore. Why aren’t they ordering them anymore? Because they started derating the stick shifts, because, although I do love a G56 sixspeed manual transmission, they didn’t have enough horsepower to be competitive. With the automatic ain’t going to go, buy a brand new truck and have a d-rated manual transmission truck when you’re, dishing out more usable horsepower and papered horsepower with the automatic just go with that thing.

So pretty soon, sales R off with a stick. Let’S go ahead and not make them anymore, what a bummer that is now up until recently 2022, with my new 30 or 5500, I hadn’t really towed on a regular basis with an automatic, and this is what’s going to bring me to my biggest concern. I think there is with the current six-speed automatics from Dodge and we’ll see what the new one has to offer. The paperwork I show doesn’t give this information, but we’re still dealing with the same thing. First gear does not lock up first gear, didn’t lock up back then.

Don’T worry. I put a 5p speed in this thing, so first gear locks up good on this tow rig now, but the new current 67 with a six-speed automatic, is the same thing from early 2010 or whatever when they put the 67 with an is we don’t got first Gear lock up Ford with their 10speed that thing locks up in first gear and mind you that first gear is an absolute dog crawl, because it’s got nine more gears. On top of that, it can start off nice and low and it’s still got a tall gear at the end, even if you’re running a low ratio. So that being said, I got some concerns with the new info that I’ve been given via. Where did it go on here?

I better find it real quick got to look up the Cummins information on Facebook. I found a post, that’s given this info, it did surface about a week ago, but we got some information to disclose. We did get an upgrade on the transmission as far as I’m concerned, but I’ll tell you what even back in the day, if you took a 12 valve and you transplanted that into F350 firsthand Witnesses old 6 L truck you blow the engine up, the transmission’s still Good, the truck’s still good go ahead and put a 12 in that baby, with the correct, wiring and tones and all that stuff. I’Ve never driven a 12 valve with an automatic that I actually enjoyed until I drove a 12 valve swap F350, because the automatic transmission knew what to do it. Let that engine do what it needed and up until this day they still haven’t really gotten.

It figured out when it comes down to cumings and a transmission. Unless it’s a manual transmission, then the guy running, the steering wheel can run the stick shift too. That goes to the trans Mission and he gets the best of both worlds. He gets to do what his truck needs to do and he’s not worried about it. But let’s go over the new information on the 67 and what Ram’s going to have offered in 2025, mind you.
I wanted to order one of these bad boys uh either get rid of my 5500 and get a new 35 get rid of my old 35 get new one VI Versa, but I don’t know: let’s go over this information right here, because the new 67 coming I’ll Read you, the information straight off of Facebook. 7.2 was a rumor, while the chatter of the 72 ler option, it is confirmed. It’S a 67, like, I already told you what they did in 2019, when they went to the new body, is style which, by the way they didn’t change the body style really much at all. In 2025, they went ahead and put instead of a solid lifter.

They went with a roller rocker like an old school kind of thing, which is it’s proven to not be that good. You get a lift your tick. If you don’t run the correct oil in it, you can’t just run the regular stuff from back in the day. You end up with a lift. Your tick and a lot of people are ended up if you got the money they’re just swapping out and going back to the solid lifters, getting rid of the hydraulic lifters but they’re staying with it in 2025, still going with a roller rocker lifter Hy hydraulic unit, Which makes it nice cuz, you don’t have to adjust.

The vales, I suppose, makes it quicker for assembly. One less thing to worry about: it’s going to have glow plugs instead of a grid. Heater turns out the grid heater on the 67 uh turned out to be like the worst design ever because it was worse than killer D, pin with the stud that goes through the intake plum, because that thing breaks the head off of it. You got a nut rolling down your number six cylinder, for whatever reason it decides to kill for number six grab. I don’t know it starts cooking your bolt or nut or whatever and ruins your engine, because you know you can’t put a bolt head or a nut inside the cylinder.

What else we got here? It’S going to improve the air flow by not having the grid heater, which banks and everybody else has been deleting the grid heater for a long time, which proved to be something to save your engine. Cuz, the killer D, nut ain’t there, no more, but it’s also lemon issues from the grid. Heater thing: oh, what the guy on the camera just say anyway skip that One external injectors. I put a photo up of this engine.

It looks weird. It looks like something that’s supposed to be in a car I don’t know, but the benefits no need to remove the valve cover, making it much easier to service we’re going to have a new turbo on it. Another vgt, which is fine vgt. Somehow they put Emissions on these things and they put the variable geometry turbo on it, so that it could close off the exhaust. So it redirects it back through the engine which subsequently made it an exhaust break when he needed it and proved to be the best exhaust break on the market y.

Why a lot of people still run the Cs, so we still got the vgt just a 10 blade, whatever that means, and now we’re going to have a pump that resembles the cp4. If you don’t know what cp4 is it’s not C, CP3 CP3 they’ve been running for a long time. On the 67 and 5′ 9 CP3 has been rocking and rolling good high pressure, fuel pump, Idols PSI of 7,000 standard somewhere in there and upwards of 30,000. A peak but we’re decided we’re going to go with a cp4 again that the cam turn sideways in it and it takes metal and puts it through your whole fuel system. Well, we’re going to go back to something that resembles that not really sure why?
Because because they went to the cp4 to get more pressure, so they have more horsepower and burn better and then that started failing. So they went back to the CP3 and they’re still making the same horse go figure. What else we got here? Um, let’s hope the [ __ ] Engineers have can have address the prior reliability concerns of the cp4 uh transitioning from a compacted graphite iron to traditional gray iron, going back going back to the old box makes sense what else we need on here. Exhaust and transmission improvements, electric DPF heater, designed to heat up filter faster, improve efficiency transmission.

This is probably the biggest news. Sorry about that. Neighbor ofon came over. It is uh. My wife’s birthday today so say happy birthday to Taylor, that’d be awesome, but let’s go ahead and talk about the transmission a little bit more, the ZF transmission.

Apparently this is a transmission already used in Kenworth trucks and packar trucks. Something to note right here. I don’t know I haven’t driven a 8-speed. Zf transmission can work before I don’t know. If it’s got first gear lockup, I’m sure that it does.

I don’t know why Isa didn’t have that, but that would be a major win if first gear locked up, it might rule out a lot of personally, I wouldn’t mind changing Brands to get away with the unlock first gear for a dedicated tow rig. It just doesn’t make sense it if, with a Dodge, you got to go into four low in some situations and then four low still won’t lock up your first or second get out. It won’t lock up your first or second gear. It’Ll wait till third gear before it gives you lock up so you’re still baring on the torque converter. In a lot of cases, these trucks are ready to 35,000 lb, so you’re nursing, a big old Hill and – and you don’t have first gear, lock up you’re, just burning on that converter heating, your transmission up, not ideal, so 8-speed automatic still, not a 10.

Maybe a 10’s not completely needed, because apparently 8speed is good in a Kenworth. Also, Ford is making 500 horsepower at 12200 foot PBS of torque and they’re still maintaining a decent fuel mileage. Only thing I can assume is: they are turning diesel fuel into nitrous through the power stroke engine they’re doing something to just absolutely destroy everybody on horsepower, doesn’t even make any sense. So, what’s Dodge, do the ram [ __ ] situation still going to hold a 67 that doesn’t have the horsepower we’re going to go back to a cp4 and we’re going to go from 420 horsepower high output to sorry, 420 horsepower and 1,75 torque? That’S still pretty good, honestly, that’s not bad I’ve driven that trip.

It’S pretty good tow with it real good, but they’re simply going to increase the horsepower by 10. So it’s 430 and the same 1075 on the torque. Was it two years now they’ve been running 500 horsepower with Ford? I don’t know how long term that is seems like a lot of people that get the high output are just towing a trash can in the mailbox. It doesn’t make any sense or they’re putting you know, 22s on it.
24S. I don’t know anyway. Sidetracked sounds like Cummins is playing it safe. While testing this new platform, future power increases may come through software updates once the reliability of the new powertrain is confirmed. So I will give them credit for that with Evolution be comes concerns, one thing that you might think you’re making better might be one step backwards, for example, when they switch from P pump to a VP man.

There was some growing paints with that. Ultimately, a lot of people favored the VP, once you realize you had have good fuel pressure all the time to it and same thing when they went to the common rail injection system, you got to have clean fuel, you couldn’t run motor oil with sawdust in it. Like you could, with this truck, what the problem was is the last generation didn’t have those concerns, because it wasn’t a problem and step into a new evolved system, you’re trying to get more horsepower out of you’re, changing it up trying to meet emissions? Trying to do this trying to meet what the customer wants, and you simply don’t know until you start running them. I suppose, but now companies can be running tests on these trucks for a couple years in advance like they should before they start pumping millions of these things out of the world.

But I’ll say this right now that baby better have better, have first gear locked up with the automatic, since we don’t have the stick shift anymore, which is an absolute drag, and I didn’t realize how much of it a drag was until I’ve been spent. The last two years, you know daily towing with an automatic and go back to the stick shift and go damn it’s just so much more user friendly in these mountains, Towing heavy you can just pick a gear stay in. It pull the Great no fumbling trying to get it reved to the moon, so it can lock up second gear and hopefully it’ll hold. But there is another good thing: there’s no standard output, all of them are going to be bad dogs. All of them are going to have horsepower, but that’s leaving me to where I am at the crossroads, because I’ve already talked with my dealer.

Peterson Evan, and I told him that I was interested in either. Maybe trading in my 5,500, which got 14,000 M on it or I’m going to sell it and maybe get knew 3500 from him. But we didn’t know if it was going to 8-speed is 8-speed ZF. If it was going to be a 67 or a 92, we didn’t know, and he didn’t have any of information. I was trying to get my foot in the door to see a either uh early dealer Showcase of the new truck the body style hasn’t changed enough to concern me.

The engine hasn’t evolved enough to really concern me yeah. It’S got some features on it that might make maintenance on a higher level a little bit better. They went back to a cp4 variant, I’m not I’m, not I’m not interested in cp4 uh, pretty much on anything. As far as I’m concerned – and it’s going to shock, you a lot hear what I’m about to say next, because I honestly think, as far as it goes and Apex Trucking going to kick my ass for waiting this long, I guess, but I am about 90 % – Sure that uh in 2025, I’m going to either buy a 22 plus or order a brand new one F450 and sell my 5500 we’re going to we’re going to change it up. We’Ve been left with so much to desire for the longest time and honestly.

Why do I like Dodge? Why have I been so hung up on them this whole time, dokes of Hazard, the generally Dodge? I got a charger, I got a challenger. I got all the diesel options out it. We got to check those boxes, the child of options, but now it’s time to apparently be an adult and we got to go, get a Ford because Dodge didn’t change enough and evolve enough.
We’Ll wait till the 72 comes out, but it hurts my feelings that they didn’t go for a 72 immediately to chase the horsepower goals that everybody else is doing, and better fuel efficiency or whatever it was they’re strictly going to go to a 72 allegedly to meet Standards of Emissions on Dodge Ram, wait. That’S the same one ram Ford, Chev, whatever’s else out there. Why don’t? I go to a semi because I want to have a four-door. If I take the trailer off my truck, I can go drive my truck with the family to the ocean.

I can go wherever I want with the family with a conventional pickup and I don’t have to pay, you know extreme insurance and everything on it. I don’t have a bumpy ride. I don’t have a sleeper, it’s so much nicer. Just to have a pickup. I don’t need a semi.

The pickup does the job. Okay, we are driving my 22 5500 right now. This is a truck that I wanted for a long time and I’d say for the most part. It didn’t necessarily disappoint me, but there’s a couple of things that I don’t know if the new truck the new Dodge is going to offer the new Ram. But I will say going from a third gen to a fourth gen to a fifth gen.

There’S one thing that I really like that they went back to because the for chin for the climate control was a button up and down, and that was annoying. So they went back to a Twist knob, so you could wrap fire, get your climates up where you want it or down where you need it and that’s that’s a big upgrade but the biggest complaint. I would say that I have, and I know Ford doesn’t have this problem is the shifter. I do not have the uh gear selector on my shifter, for the manual override to you know, hold a gear, an up gear down shift whatever it’s over here on the steering wheel, 4 Chens used to be over there and it’s so convenient because you can just Ride your right hand right here and just hang out and shift when he wanted to when you really needed to stretch gears, Towing up a big hill or make sure you downshifted ahead of time. But now, if you’re in the corner, trying to downshift it’s kind of like a Easter egg hunt trying to find that thing when you’re speed, spinning the wheel, so that’s kind of I don’t like that they did that.

So that is one thing I really wish on the new trucks they fix is go back to having the gear select over here, but other than that. We’Ll see, I’m going to end this video off with the idea that I’ve already driven a F450 pull pulling 35,000 lb, and I was very, very impressed. There’S a lot more going on inside the cab of those trucks. There’S a lot more gauges and coming from the standpoint of old trucks that you have to rely on those gauges, I think it’s kind of nice that they they have that option for some of those gauges. I don’t know if you would even really care about it.

Other than make sure it’s got oil pressure, not overheating, because the computer controls all the other junk. But I have already spoken with my dealer about a new 3500 to see what the time frame kind of deal is and how much one of those would cost and they haven’t gotten any on the lot yet. So I’m not saying I’m not buying one, but I’ve definitely got some major concerns that real world tests are going to have to take over and see how they perform, because they did a lot of going forward and a lot of going backwards. But at the end of the day to only G gain a couple horsepower. After all, those changes just doesn’t really add up when the next competitor has got the same displacement just in a different format: a V8 and they’re converting diesel into nitrous, because the horsepower is just so much higher and another thing too.

I will end the video saying this: there is an F450 Towing video coming very soon, and I will assure you that I always thought because these 67s were a smaller displacement. I thought they needed the higher RPM to chase the horsepower to pull these kind of weights and just to get that horsepower numers. They do not. With the Ford that thing behaved like an old school freaking Diesel lowend power. It was pulling good at 200000 RPM if it downshifted it went to 22 2300.

I couldn’t believe it so look forward to that video. If I missed anything, you need something to add into this video comment it down below. I know there’s going to be some big controversial moments on here. Some of the stuff I said, but you got to understand – I’ve been driving Dodges religiously forever. That’S all I’ve had Mopar no car kind of deal comments.

Let’S get it with the fact that I’m willing to change is saying something: if you’re losing your die, hards man step something up, give forol and see what the hell they’re doing better to get that horsepower. We’Ll see you guys in the next one. Thanks for watching comment, something nice below see see you